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Coming to Next.js from Laravel, being able to hand things off to a long running worker is one of the things I missed the most. We're currently handling this with a non-ideal solution and will definitely check Trigger.dev out when you launch that feature.


Great, you can subscribe to updates on our discussion here: https://github.com/triggerdotdev/trigger.dev/discussions/400

We'll be updating it as we make progress and open it up for early testers.


May I ask what made you to switch from Laravel to Next.js?


Would like to know this as well. I switched from my last company’s WordPress app over to our Laravel side of things (with Vue/Inertia on the front end) and I really liked it. I’ve heard of Next.js here and there but seeing in the context of “switched from Laravel” I’m very curious.


Ah thanks! In the middle of publishing that integration :-) We'll get that fixed.


As far as the fonts - font support across email clients is.... not great. We offer it but warn our users that their chosen font might not be displayed in most cases.

Ideally, you'd be able to paste any markdown into our editor and have it render properly, but still something we need to work on.

A markdown to HTML (email) converter would be neat though.


We're trying a different model - pay for your core audience and any emails (product updates, user touch points, and transactional) are all included. If you have a use case that sends outside of your core audience (maybe sharing content with non-users of your product, we bill on a more traditional email volume pricing.


Potential SaaS customers register trial accounts all the time. Do each address count as a new contact even though they only receive, say, an activation email once and never come back?


You could remove those contacts and not be charged for them however if you only email someone once that started a trial account you’re doing your business a disservice in our experience.


bugging them constantly is a great way to get on spam lists and not be able to send emails at all.

this is just extortion in pricing. no competitor does this. good luck.


As someone who formerly lived in email marketing, the onboarding flow for a trial signup was usually a 7-day flow, 2 emails on the first day, the first was very transactional and automatic for activating your account, the second one was still automated, but a few hours later, and from me (the developer of the product) providing my personal email for any questions. Then one email per day with a tip on how to use the product effectively with mini-case studies from customers.

This converted at 9-15% depending on time of year and product. We built a lot of micro-SaaS offerings.

Our conversion before we did this onboarding multi-touch email approach was closer to 1-2%. These onboarding emails really do work with get a customer engaged and using the trial instead of signing up, and forgetting about it because it was free.

After that, if they converted, they would be moved into a different flow with a less frequent emails (weekly or monthly depending on the product). If they didn't convert, we had a second flow that would lead to an extended trial or discount which would convert another 3-5%.

Effective trial marketing is very important to sign ups. Our "marked as spam" and unsubs never went above 2% because we were providing value in our emails for a customer who signed up for a trial for a reason.


Yes, we send follow up emails to remind them to get things setup. But I don't send much mail beyond that. I do not like sending spam. Conversion is around 10%.


what provider did you use?


I still don't get it; let's say I have 100+ signups a day on trial accounts and 200k+ paying clients which almost never receive email from us, but do sometimes (maybe 1-2 times every few months). What are we looking at?


yah sorry, there is a button there "view all pricing plans" that will get you up to 100k contacts.


Lexical has been great. I think the biggest drawback is that its an earlier project (compared to alternatives) so there are not always best practices for what we want to do. That said, the community is pretty active (in discord) and generally responsive to bug reports.


ah so bring your own MTA - that's an interesting idea and would definitely make it easier to switch over. How would you expect pricing to work at that point?


The same? You price per contact not per send after all


Our intention is that it's clickable - I can't replicate this but others have mentioned it. What browser are you on?


Chrome on Windows


Thanks! We actually have an integration with Make launching soon. I can invite you to the private version, shoot me an email -> adam@loops.so


Thanks! We're aiming for an easy to use modern platform, so thats great to hear.


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