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I'd rather kiss my dog, whom I love, over a random person that I have little in common with. Is that somehow weird to you?


The internet is an amazing place.


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Insufficiently analytical take.

Dogs are a special case. Humans are part of their soil, the soil they evolved in. They must have features (physical, behavioral) to manipulate humans into treating them like part of the group.

Think of the environment dogs evolved in. Small homogenous groups of humans. They aren’t even human, and humans still treated them as part of the in group, while at the same time killing people outside of their clan who looked and acted almost exactly like they did, certainly well within the bounds of what would today be a single nation or region within a nation.

Dogs and empathy towards them are totally compatible with human xenophobia or whatever we call it, there is no contradiction or hypocrisy here.


Starting a company in Sweden requires (uploaded PDF from Bolagsverket to ChatGPT who summarized):

1. Prepare the foundation deed and the articles of association. 2. Identify the beneficial owner(s). 3. Pay the share capital and obtain the bank certificate or auditor’s statement. 4. Submit the registration application for the limited company to the Swedish Companies Registration Office (Bolagsverket) and wait for approval. 5. If applicable: submit a certified copy of your passport (non-Swedish citizens). 6. Apply for F-tax approval and VAT registration and wait for the decision. 7. Register as an employer if you will pay salaries. 8. Keep continuous bookkeeping and prepare the annual accounts each financial year. 9. Submit the annual report to Bolagsverket every year.

Optional:

1. Obtain business and personal insurance. 2. Register trademarks or protect other intellectual property. 3. Choose an auditor if you want one or when the company later reaches the required thresholds. 4. Register a cash register if you accept cash or card payments. 5. Meet requirements for import/export and obtain an EORI number. 6. Follow rules for buying/selling goods or services within or outside the EU. 7. Keep a staff ledger if required for your industry. 8. Follow reverse-charge VAT rules if you operate in construction. 9. Apply for permits if your specific business activity requires them.

This is not what I'd call a straightforward process, personally. Also speaking from personal experience. Sorry for the formatting.


Are you implying that there is a country somewhere you don't have to "keep bookkeeping and prepare annual accounts"? Sounds like bog standard things.


No, that's not what I'm implying. I'm saying that it's needlessly complicated.


> This is not what I'd call a straightforward process, personally.

It's a (check)list....what could be more straightforward?


I guess it depends what we mean with straightforward. If we mean something along the lines of "no ambiguity" then yes. If we mean something along the lines of "simple, easy to do" then no. Almost anything can be accomplished with a sufficiently long checklist. I just feel like the entire process could be streamlined and simplified.


I see no contradiction here.


It scares me that people think like this. Not only with respect to AI but in general, when it comes to other life forms, people seem to prefer to err on the side of convenience. The fact that cows could be experiencing something very similar to ourselves should send shivers down our spine. The same argument goes for future AGI.


I find it strange that people believe cows and sentient animals don’t believe something extremely similar to what we do.

Evolution means we all have common ancestors and are different branches of the same development tree.

So if we have sentience and they have sentience, which science keeps recognizing, belatedly, that non human animals do, shouldn’t the default presumption be our experiences are similar? Or at the very least their experience is similar to a human at an earlier stage of development, like a 2 year old?

Which is also an interesting case study given that out of convenience, humans also believed that toddlers also weren’t sentient and felt no pain, and so until not that long ago, our society would conduct all sorts of surgical procedures on babies without any sort of pain relief (circumcision being the most obvious).

It’s probably time we accept our fellow animals’s sentience and act on the obvious ethical implications of that instead of conveniently ignoring it like we did with little kids until recently.


This crowd would sooner believe silicon hardware (an arbitrary human invention from the 50s-60s) will have the physical properties required for consciousness than accept that they participate in torturing literally a hundred billion consciousness animals every year.


I’m actually a vegan because I believe cows have consciousness. I believe consciousness is the only trait worth considering when applying morality questions. Arbitrary hardware is conscious.


This doesn’t sound reasonable to me. Why would we?


Why do you feel that way?


The fundamental driver of the economy is people eating and clothing themselves, not writing memos that are never read.


Food is 13% of US consumer spending, and clothing is 2.7%. Both have declined steadily since the industrial revolution.


I assure that people being alive is going to be the fundamental driver of the economy no matter what percent of consumer spending it is.


Now cut off people’s access to those and let’s see how the economy does


ELIZA is that way ->.

Try asking "what evidence supports your conclusions?".


years of consistent disappointment with the user experience, along with years of misleading internet propaganda dramatically overselling the quality and power of the underlying technology.

it's a fucking dud.


It surprises me that people still believe this! I've seen AI deliver incredible value over the past year. I believe the application level is utilizing <.5% (probably less) of the total value that can be derived from current foundation models.


It's only a niche weird opinion you'll find on forums like HN.

In the real world, it's immensely useful to millions of people. It's possible for a thing to both be incredibly useful and overhyped at the same time.


Based on your gung ho attitude I suspect that you are personally invested in "AI products" or otherwise work for a firm that creates "AI products"


What evidence supports your conclusions?

What evidence are you aware of that counters it?


In a few years, will we need seniors?


There's an old and famous quote around computers not having morals, and thus computers requiring people on top of them that can steward systems and be hold accountable.

Besides morals, you'll always need people in the interface between the computers and the world. Maybe they won't write too much code, but they'll need to specify and verify behaviours anyway.


wishful thinking. Governments around the world are relying on algorithms to decide who can have welfare or who is cheating on taxes.

With the rise of AI it will only get worse.


These algorithms were designed and verified by humans.


Non deterministic software will never produce 100% of the time perfect results. So we will need humans with knowledge to verify up to when an other technology will be able to build enough trust to avoid human reviews. With 2000 line very precise prompts, Claude code finishes saying the code is ready for production and there is still anomalies and bugs that it should have catched but didn’t. Good luck trusting 100% of your business on such technologies.


It's not that good, and almost always more complex than the essence a senior person will boil thing down to.


I've tested it and it's actually quite good. I'll be switching.


Totally agree. It doesn't seem limited to EU results btw. I added a bookmark on the toolbar and will be searching there first. Enough already will surveillance capitalism!

https://www.ecosia.org/


Yes - only the Irish are brave.


What did you try to use it for? But I agree, it feels kinda beta at the moment.


One of the suggested prompts was: "create a presentation about". So I did that and asked it to create a presentation about things to do around a popular location.

It did research for ages, not really finding anything useful. And then it took it ages to create a very generic presentation that looked like from PowerPoint 95 with very generic tips.


I've been trying to find a good use case for it, I got one that I was happy with [0] but, yeah, it's not perfect

[0] https://chatgpt.com/share/68953a55-c5d8-8003-a817-663f565c6f...


If this got some traction there would be a lot more use cases: https://community.openai.com/t/feature-ifttt-connector-in-ag...


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