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"At some point that queue will fill, but that's a separate issue"

Would you recommend something to read about that?


It's a bit difficult to cover as it is highly dependent on the queue system you use.

You'd usually want your queue system to fail the enqueue if it is full, and you'd want monitoring to ensure the queue isn't growing at an unsustainable rate.

It also forces you to think a bit about your message payload (rich data or foreign keys the worker loads).

RabbitMQ, Redis-based queues (ex: ActiveJob or sidekiq), Gearman, and others will all offer different mechanisms to tackle full queues.



"I do not see why Crimea is more Russian than Ukrainian"

Because it was Russian for almost 200 years before Khruschev stole it from Russia and 'gifted' to the Ukraine.

Because according to the Western polls after the reunification with Russia overwhelming majority of Crimeans approve of it.

And last but not least, the Ukraine lost any moral right to govern Crimea after cutting water and electricity supply to the citizens of the peninsula.


> Because it was Russian for almost 200 years before Khruschev stole it from Russia and 'gifted' to the Ukraine.

And it was ottoman for how many years before that?. Nothing was stolen from Russia, I know Russia has a lot of historical grievances (even with itself) but this was done according to the laws at the time.

> Because according to the Western polls after the reunification with Russia overwhelming majority of Crimeans approve of it.

I presume this is similar to the way that the Crimean council voted for the annexation with guns to their head.

> And last but not least, the Ukraine lost any moral right to govern Crimea after cutting water and electricity supply to the citizens of the peninsula.

So Ukraine must provide weather to their enemy, an enemy that is trying to end their existence.

Do you want them perhaps to also feed and bathe their enemy too?.

Crimea had its water cut off as a sign to Russia.


Because it was Russian for almost 200 years

But in name only, you meant to say.

Because it was populated by a very solid majority of Crimean Tatars (and very few Russians) up until 1860 or so, you mean to say. That is, until shortly after the end of that war that didn't work out so well for Russia.

And then by a solid majority of non-Russians -- mostly Crimean Tatars, along with a whole host of other folks, (including Germans, Jews, Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Poles - and of course, Ukrainians) until the summer of 1944, you meant to say.

At which time a magical event happened which would finally give the peninsula a majority Russian population.

Perhaps you would like to tell us what that event was?

The Ukraine lost any moral right to govern Crimea after cutting water and electricity supply to the citizens of the peninsula.

The moment the mafia-like entities which run the Peninsula decided to throw their lot with a foreign power that was, at that time, conducting a war of aggression against Ukraine in its eastern regions -- they naturally lost any right to the benefits of the North Crimean Canal.


Since the Kiev regime (whose SBU is tightly interconnected with the Azov nationalists) directly funds and provides with weaponry such as 152/155mm artillery and shells (including cluster munitions) to their organized right wing nationalist groups who persistently conduct warcrime after warcrime for the regime, they lost any legitimate claim to the Donbass. The Azovs have shelled civilans in Dontesk for now nearly a decade and on a daily to weekly basis.

Imagine if China funded and armed right wing nationalist groups, who build forts on artificial islands near Taiwan and shelled Taipei weekly for nine years straight to "punish" seperatist citizens of the Repubic of China.

If that happened, you can be pretty sure China would loose any legitimate claim to Taiwan that it once had.


Wow it's been 45 years since they stopped shelling Taiwan, you're kind of bringing up old history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis#In...


"But in name only"

By the same logic, Crimea could never be Ukrainian more than 'by the name only'. [0]

"a magical event happened which would finally give the peninsula a majority Russian population"

There's nothing magical in Stalin's crimes which were condemned in the USSR and later in Russia many times.

"The moment the mafia-like entities ... they naturally lost any right to the benefits of the North Crimean Canal"

So you are justifying cutting water and electricity to the whole civilian population of Crimea by Russian support for pro-Russia separatists elsewhere? That's exactly what I was talking about when I said that the Ukraine lost any moral right to govern Crimea.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea


And here is Zelensky lying with the straight face: "We definitely didn’t order it, as far as I know"[0].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yum-jxnkU8U


The horror! The president of a country under foreign invasion lied about opsec. I think I'll buy myself a pearl necklace just to have something to clutch.


I agree, we can't believe anything coming from his mouth.


WHO’s we comrade?


Obviously, I and the author of the comment I was replying to.


We are not in agreement, just to be clear about this.


Sure we are. You say that Zelensky can lie because of 'opsec' but use it to justify a random lie. I agree that he lies.


Of course, Russia also blew up Nord Stream. Oh, wait.



Every country in the world has their share of far right bozos. Those of Azov are quite mild, by the way. And they are putting their lives where their mouths are, suprisingly, going out and fight Russians. Unlikely their European or US ideology brothers, who mostly fight the police during and after football games. Or, even worse, harmless LGBT folks on pride parades.


"Every country in the world has their share of far right bozos"

I'd suggest you follow the links I gave you.

"In this first English-language book on the Azov movement, Michael Colborne explains how Azov came to be and continues to exploit Ukraine’s fractured social and political situation—including the only ongoing war on European soil – to build one of the most ambitious and dangerous far-right movements in the world. Michael Colborne ... has been part of the Bellingcat Monitoring Project team at the investigative journalism website Bellingcat, primarily researching Ukraine’s far right."

And by the way, what other country made a neo-Nazi brigade a part of its army?

"And they are putting their lives where their mouths are"

Not sure what's your point. Nazis were doing that too.


The same Michael Colborne this commenter is citing has also written that he "wouldn't call [the Azov Movement] explicitly a neo-Nazi movement", and told Haaretz in 2022:

"After the first few years of its formation, only a small minority of members had far right connections. ... The Azov Battalion and the entire Azov movement are almost completely untainted by antisemitism."

Not that I'm defending Azov. Just that I don't think that this commenter's apparent concerns about Azov's political beliefs are what they seem. I don't think they really care as to whether Azov is now, or ever was neo-Nazi in any substantive sense. It's just a topic they like to through around to push people's emotional buttons, and distract from far more obvious and important issues.

Pretty much exactly like Putin is doing whenever he plays the Nazi card.


"only a small minority of members had far right connections"

Of course its commanders are a minority.

"untainted by antisemitism"

So it's ok to hate other nationalities if it's not Jews?

No one idolizing Bandera and the likes of him cannot be untainted by Nazism.

"I don't think they really"

Pretending to read other person's mind and accuse them of insincerity based on that makes a poor argument.

"to push people's emotional buttons, and distract "

You mean people in Western countries might learn whom they are helping and ask questions like "why exactly have we been doing this"?


You mean those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries might learn ...

We know all about the topic. However, it's clear from the overall tone of how you communicate here (and your endless evasions when cornered on simple factual matters) that you are either not capable of, or are simply not interested in anything even remotely resembling a productive discussion about it.


"those naive, brainwashed fools in Western countries"

You might be right, actually. Naive and brainwashed Americans supported criminal invasion of Iraq in 2003 on the false pretext. And reelected Bush afterwards. So don't underestimate the power of Western domestic propaganda.


"We know all about the topic."

That wouldn't be the first time when the West uses Nazis against Russia. I hope you just lied and used 'we' instead of 'I'.

The rest of your comment is expectedly lacking any specifics.


>And by the way, what other country made a neo-Nazi brigade a part of its army?

Literally all of them, including Russia of course(which has multiple).


Are you able to name a couple, or even one, if multiple are too hard?


Wagner and its sub Rusich? Both are directly funded by Russia (as recently admitted by Putin himself).

You can possibly claim that it is PMC rather than direct Russian military, but then there is the recent ultimatum given to Wagner troops -- Join Russian military ranks or leave.


Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever, as you noticed yourself, it's a PMC, so it's not a part of the military. And the ultimatum confirms that (you cannot demand people who are part of the military to join the military). As for "Rusich" relation to "Wagner" there are just Western journalists claiming that. "Wagner" is not very secretive and Prigozhin is making more videos than some ecelebs yet he never mentioned that nor has shown any "Rusich" troops.

Was it all you had?


>Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever.

lol, I'm done.

Edit: Looked through comment history and it makes sense now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30731180

You're a joke, and you should be ashamed of yourself.


Sure, and you should not be lying though.


"Even if we consider "Wagner" to be "neo-nazi" with no evidence what so ever"

Well, this sure looks like an evidence of Wagner's commander having a neo-Nazi tattoo [0][1]. Besides Utkin's personality there doesn't seem to be anything else.

[0] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/729

[1] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/736


What's the answer? It doesn't play audio for me.


Essentially lack of denial. Weird mix of 'Utkin was undercover among Nazis' and 'to fight Nazism one needs to try it himself'. By the way, Bellingcat claims that Utkin has a minor position in Wagner.


I'd imagine if they recorded an audio answer they were not being serious, so makes sense you found it weird. Bellingcat claims a lot of things with no evidence, it's not a serious source IMO.


Almost all Prigoshin's statements are audio and video messages.


Yes, I don't think he was being serious in almost all his videos I've seen. Does not he ask Zelensky to kiss Joe Biden for him in some?


What's the source for Rusich being a part of Wagner? Rusich is despicable.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group#cite_note-:2-1

I wanted to verify sources a bit further myself, but alas: https://i.imgur.com/YxG58lR.png

To be fair, it is silly to even separate them as they're all fighting hand in hand with regular Russian army with Russian army supplies, so for all intents and purposes they were both part of it.

But seeing as the person I was responding to is touting about "powerful Russian military" and "weak Europe" from the comforts of the western middle class, I don't really want to engage in discussion any further.


Milchakov was seen on a Wagner photo in Syria and "allegedly since the summer of 2017 a group of 6 people from Rusich fought in Wagner" ("С осени 2017 года у Вагнера в строю якобы целая группа из «Русича» – шесть человек.") [0] So much for Rusich being a part of Wagner. The same source says Wagner killed 5 fighters from Rusich guarding one of Donbass warlords.

"so for all intents and purposes they were both part of it"

Not really. Rusich is a dirty secret just like Utkin's personality. They are not legitimized in any way. Azov with the Wolfsangel on their banner and Aidar are openly ultra-nationalist and touted by Kyev as heroes.

[0] https://www.fontanka.ru/2017/10/19/101/


As I said, I took it off wiki and I did not verify sources further due to lack of interest in this angle (Wagner is equally despicable in my view).

Russia and Russian Military have a long and proven track record of lying without any shame or remorse, so I don't really care what the "official" standing of these units is. They are fed by Russia, armed by Russia and controlled by Russia, everything else is "Пыль в глаза".

Without downplaying the troubling beginnings of Azov (who aren't the worst offenders by a mile if you look at 2014-2015, to be honest) -- it has little bearing in 2023.

Ukrainian army went a long way cleaning up their ranks and becoming a professional army since then, they had trials and punished their own soldiers for committing crimes in ATO, which Russian side not only did not do, but encouraged.

The World is holding Ukraine to an impossible standard right now, magnifying every individual case and person to paint the whole country in bad light while turning the blind eye to one to Russian atrocities (See HRW about Cluster munitions for Ukraine vs silence on Russia using all sorts of forbidden weaponry).


"they had trials and punished their own soldiers for committing crimes in ATO"

Zelensky let them all out when the war started[0], including the infamous Tornado battalion[1][2].

"have a long and proven track record of lying without any shame or remorse"

Just like the Ukraine or the US.

"which Russian side ... encouraged"

Another fine example of 'atrocity propaganda'[3] to mobilize public support in Western countries for the Ukrainian war.

"vs silence on Russia using all sorts of forbidden weaponry"

So why is the silence? That happens when things get investigated and no proof is found. I remember Ukrainian general claiming in 2014 that Russia used a tactical nuke in Donbass.

[0] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10559879/Zelensky-r...

[1] https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-tornado-battalion-rogue-para...

[2] https://focus-ua.translate.goog/uk/amp/ukraine/521825-osuzhd...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_propaganda


Zelensky let them out after many years in prison when faced with full scale war, I do like how you are silent on Russia recruiting violent offenders in prisons to go to Ukraine though. And no, it was not just Wagner doing so, and even Wagner was doing it with explicit approval from Russian government.

The audacity to compare Ukraine, which has incredible level of transparency during this invasion in every aspect, welcoming auditors and investigators from all over the world to Russia is very telling of your biases.

I am Russian, I am well aware of nuances, but to even begin to compare the two is insanity in 2023.


I'd suggest you too read the links in my original comment here.


Why do you care about AZOV you're more than happy for the Russians to give a billion dollars to a guy with literal SS lightning bolts tattooed on him.

Seems like you're more then happy about Russian nazis but looking to very much focus on the other side.

> Another fine example of 'atrocity propaganda'[3] to mobilize public support in Western countries for the Ukrainian war.

There doesn't need to be propaganda when you are up against the monsters that rolled through Grozny and Aleppo.

The Russians are every bit the monsters that most people think they are.

> Just like the Ukraine or the US.

But the Russians lie a lot more. They have pretty much not stopped lying since this "we are not going to invade" war started and even just before it.


You are still my favorite clown, don't worry. No need to stalk my comments.


> You are still my favorite clown, don't worry. No need to stalk my comments.

Typical Vatnik when they have no way to counter an argument, remember the Internet Research Agency says attack the person not the content.


> You mean used by these guys? [0][1] Where do they sit on your morality scale? [2][3][4]

Where do you the Russian soldiers raping and torturing children in Ukraine sit on your scale?. [1]

Where does the Russian government giving 1 Billion dollars to a PMC run by a Nazi with SS symbols tattooed on himself sit on your scale?. [2][3]

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-troops-raped-tort...

[2] https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-yevgeny-prigo...

[3] https://strikesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Screen-S... (the head of Wagner that the Russian government just gave a billion dollars to).


"Where do you the Russian soldiers raping and torturing children in Ukraine sit on your scale?. "

About in the same place as Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, removing the incubators and leaving the babies to die. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony


"Ukrainian volunteers fighting the Soviets"

That's not the only thing they were doing. [0]

"like Azov Brigade"

I'd recommend a book by a Canadian journalist collaborating with Bellingcat on the subject of Azov and other Ukrainian nationalists. [1]

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Divisi...

[1] http://cup.columbia.edu/book/from-the-fires-of-war/978383821...


"if the Nazis are the only people willing to be your allies"

Hmm, I wonder why. Maybe because of this [0]:

"An UVO brochure from 1929 stated: "Terror will be not only a means of self-defense, but also a form of agitation, which will affect friend and foe alike, regardless of whether they desire it or not."

The UVO organized a number of assassination attempts on some of the most renowned Polish and Ukrainian politicians, some of which were successful."

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Military_Organizatio...


"Third observation was unexpectedly high visible support of Wagner by people."

Maybe because Prigoshin was saying that the war was started for no real reason and people liked to listen to truth for a change [0]?

[0] https://t.me/concordgroup_official/1279


"The invasion of Ukraine enjoys popular support inside Russia - around 70%"

How can you get this number? Today in Russia any question by a pollster sounds like "Do you support the war or do you want to get fined for "discreditation of the army"?". I remember quite different reaction to the Western polls in Crimea showing that huge majority support reunification with Russia -- "No, no, you can't believe any polls conducted in a non-free country, people there are just afraid to say they hate Russia and want back to the Ukraine".

"while their Nazi sympathies are also common knowledge"

I don't know anyone who knows that and supports Wagner.


Everyone in Russia can read him on telegram [0].

[0] https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat


This is a fake. Another proof that random Telegram posts and channels are not to be trusted.


You are right [0], here is official Prigozhin's channel [1] with twice as many subscribers (1.2M).

[0] https://bloknot.ru/politika/prigozhin-telegram-kanaly-kepka-...

[1] https://t.me/concordgroup_official


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