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> The cognitive dissonance that comes from having to interact with Java when using Clojure is very damaging

I don't use Clojure, but isn't relatively seamless Java interop -- and thus access to the massive Java ecosystem -- considered one of the big pragmatic advantages?

> Just look at Clojure stack traces

There are prettifiers that clean this up, but I understand your complaint is cognitive dissonance. The Java guts are right there, and I guess this is the heart of that matter. Some don't like chocolate in their peanut butter.



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