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stop this "what about the western world". I see this pattern every time there's a critical article about China. When there's an article about the west's censorship, we would be happy to talk about it, but for now, let's focus on the ridiculous and crazy to be put it mildly things going on in China.


I don't like the sound of this change in China, I agree with you on that. I think this article does veer into xenophobia a bit though and it's good to offer a counter point to that.


Why? We are not chinese. We don't live in china. I'm more worried about censorship in the US and especially europe since europeans seem so intent on bringing their censorship to the US and the entire world. At least the chinese censorship affects their country mostly.

> I see this pattern every time there's a critical article about China.

Because we get the same story about china multiple times in a day.

Just from "abc.net.au" within the past 19 hours. The same story has been pushed onto the frontpage.

"China’s all-seeing surveillance network"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18030655

"China is building a digital dictatorship to exert control over its 1.4B citizens"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18026060

I'd called this propaganda rather than news.

> let's focus on the ridiculous and crazy to be put it mildly things going on in China.

Why? If china wanted to export their dictatorship to the US, I can see why we should be concerned. But they aren't. It's primarily europe and segments of puritanical leftists and rightist in the US along with parts of the tech leadership.

It's fine to have a story about china once in a while, but multiple times daily just reeks of propaganda.


China is already exporting its dictatorship (influence = power), look at their One Belt One Road project, and the predatory loans to African states.

And don't forget the clashes and island building on the South China Sea.


It remains to be seen whether the OBOR loans are predatory or not. Most of the projects are still underway at this point.


>Why? We are not chinese. We don't live in china. I'm more worried about censorship in the US and especially europe since europeans seem so intent on bringing their censorship to the US and the entire world. At least the chinese censorship affects their country mostly.

I strongly disagree. As a human being, you should be concerned with the well-being of humans everywhere in the world, not just your own country.




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