> I think I've come full circle on this...
> (I was one of the creators of RSS).
To come full circle figuratively means to be back where you started. What you meant to say is that you've done a 180 (a U-turn) on the idea.
I think it is a curious thing that even though all major browsers are written and built by geeks their corporate entities have ditched a tech that geeks are very vocal about liking.
Google famously killed Google Reader, a much loved product. That decision made me for the first time look at Google in a different light (when Reader was around I practically lived in Reader – this is perhaps what Google didn't like, I know it's a paranoid/conspiratorial viewpoint but …) [0]
Microsoft killed RSS support when moving from IE to Edge. [1]
Apple removed RSS support from Safari in Mountain Lion only to add it back in half-heartedly in Yosemite but I don't know enough about the MacOS/iOS platform to say for certain where its support is at. [2]
And today – champion of the open web, Mozilla – kills support a short while after acquiring Pocket, a non-open feature of their browser that for most people sits uselessly on the toolbar taking up valuable screen real estate and also bloats the code-base.
That's all of them then. So what's up? Why is it that browser creators don't want us to consume content in an open, uniform and standard way using RSS when it works fine and clearly geek like consuming content that way? What's so awful about: “I like that site (or sub-site), please subscribe to it and notify me about new content.”? Anybody who has any inside info on this topic please let us know.
I think it mirrors why large tech companies have failed to deliver open and federated social media. From now on, given that Chromium is also open source, I know longer consider Mozilla to be the champion of the open web. Not if they kill useful open standards and don't champion other ones even if it's not popular. Freedom has never been about popularity. Firefox should have been the first browser ages ago to ship with a built in ad-blocking and anti-tracking tech but they never did. Why? I thought Persona was pretty cool tech, but nope, they had to shut it down. And Firefox Hello? D.O.A. In certain optics it looks like Mozilla only exist to enrich themselves and not rock the ecosystem too much.
> To come full circle figuratively means to be back where you started. What you meant to say is that you've done a 180 (a U-turn) on the idea.
I think his use of the expression is accurate—coming full circle to HTML—not to RSS. There would have been no need for the commenter to co-create RSS if HTML had been adequate for what they were trying to achieve at that time.
In other words, HTML's poor fit for content syndication as the web was growing paved way for the creation of RSS. Now, people merely use HTML meta elements to achieve most of what RSS was designed for.
To come full circle figuratively means to be back where you started. What you meant to say is that you've done a 180 (a U-turn) on the idea.
I think it is a curious thing that even though all major browsers are written and built by geeks their corporate entities have ditched a tech that geeks are very vocal about liking.
Google famously killed Google Reader, a much loved product. That decision made me for the first time look at Google in a different light (when Reader was around I practically lived in Reader – this is perhaps what Google didn't like, I know it's a paranoid/conspiratorial viewpoint but …) [0]
Microsoft killed RSS support when moving from IE to Edge. [1]
Apple removed RSS support from Safari in Mountain Lion only to add it back in half-heartedly in Yosemite but I don't know enough about the MacOS/iOS platform to say for certain where its support is at. [2]
And today – champion of the open web, Mozilla – kills support a short while after acquiring Pocket, a non-open feature of their browser that for most people sits uselessly on the toolbar taking up valuable screen real estate and also bloats the code-base.
That's all of them then. So what's up? Why is it that browser creators don't want us to consume content in an open, uniform and standard way using RSS when it works fine and clearly geek like consuming content that way? What's so awful about: “I like that site (or sub-site), please subscribe to it and notify me about new content.”? Anybody who has any inside info on this topic please let us know.
I think it mirrors why large tech companies have failed to deliver open and federated social media. From now on, given that Chromium is also open source, I know longer consider Mozilla to be the champion of the open web. Not if they kill useful open standards and don't champion other ones even if it's not popular. Freedom has never been about popularity. Firefox should have been the first browser ages ago to ship with a built in ad-blocking and anti-tracking tech but they never did. Why? I thought Persona was pretty cool tech, but nope, they had to shut it down. And Firefox Hello? D.O.A. In certain optics it looks like Mozilla only exist to enrich themselves and not rock the ecosystem too much.
[0] “ Google Reader shutting down
1926 points knurdle 6 years ago 704 comments (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-second-spring-of-cl...) “
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5371725 (I have rarely seen such a uniform outcry on HN)
[1] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_in...
[2] https://thesweetsetup.com/apps/best-rss-reader-os-x/