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People used to have same attitude with testing in reality it’s just way better quality and often velocity if folks dont just throw it over the fence.


That isn't a good comparison since testing can still be part of your 9-5. There are good engineers who adamantly never want to work outside 9-5


Same as there were "good engineers" who adamantly only wanted to write code, not fix bugs or test it, or work on anything infrastructure/tooling related even it doesn't involve any oncall.




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