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I'm not sure how familiar with the UK you are. The left recently chose as a leader a man who claimed he was friends with Hamas and Hezbollah. The people who claim 'anti-zionism isn't antisemitism' are his voters.

Edit reply due to rate limit: Corbyn also laid a wreath for one of the terrorists, presumably also in the pursuit of peace.

Oddly Corbyn also advocated for the IRA and claims that was about peace too, but the people that negotiated Good Friday state he didn’t have anything to do with the NI peace process either.



It's called diplomacy. He was engaged in peace negotiations when he called those people friends (he has since said that he probably shouldnt have said it).

It clearly wasnt racism that motivated him to say "friends" it was obviously a desire for peace. Most of his more intelligent detractors understood the context but were avowedly pro war - for them that actually made it worse.

Isaac Herzog's abhorrent views had no such excuse, he doubled down on them and yet British centrists demonstrate pretty much unconditional support for him.

A contingent from the UK Labour party even visited him to apologize in person for the other guy's "antisemitism". In the process of apologizing for somebody who wasnt a racist, they were sucking up to somebody who was. They werent looking for peace when they did that though, only approval.


Was rate limited at the time, but edit-replied above - ICYMI:

Corbyn also laid a wreath for one of the terrorists, presumably also in the pursuit of peace.

Oddly Corbyn also advocated for the IRA and claims that was about peace too, but the people that negotiated Good Friday state he didn’t have anything to do with the NI peace process either.

Adding to that:

> A contingent from the UK Labour party even visited him to apologize in person for the other guy's "antisemitism".

Excellent. That said, it's not just one other guy - Corbyn's not the only person in the far left.

> Isaac Herzog's abhorrent views

The worst I've seen so far is someone saying Herzog thinks Palestinians fly planes into buildings, which is demonstrably false (in a video he discusses 'terrorists' doing that) and someone else saying he doesn't want his daughter to marry a black man - not wanting your children to marry outside your race is a fairly common view worldwide although rarely said in public in the UK. Oddly Labour is very keen on conservative views when it comes to some races but not others.

If there's something big about Herzog we haven't seen in this thread please spill it here.


>The worst I've seen so far is someone saying Herzog thinks Palestinians fly planes into buildings

I guess youve never googled isaac herzog miscegenation.

It's a more useful example than most not because its necessarily his worsr remark but because it wasnt an offhand comment he later denied and because theres zero potential ambiguity about it being a racist belief.

>not wanting your children to marry outside your race is a fairly common view worldwide although rarely said in public in the UK.

Right. Racism is fairly common worldwide.

There is still a near complete overlap between people who preach antizionism and against racism (including antisemitism) and a willingness to let their daughter marry outside their race and people who will inevitably be accused of being antisemitic.

There is also almost a complete overlap between people who preach that this antizionism and antisemitism are equivalent and endorsement of racism - whether covert or overt.

I believe that this thread and the absolute unwavering commitment of everybody in it to the avoidance of condemming Isaac's remarks inadvertently underscores this...though Im still willing to be proven mistaken.

It's just as true for the centrist wing of the Labour party - e.g. when a group of them visited Israel to make a cringeworthy pledge of fealty to Isaac and were lauded for doing so.


No I haven’t googled anything I haven’t heard of before, neither have you.

Yes racism is common worldwide. But the UK left let Dianne Abbot and various orthodox Islam-associated ethnicities (who have similar views about their kid’s partners) and anyone else off Scott free. They really don’t like it when Jews want their kids to marry other Jews though. Odd isn’t it?

> There is still a near complete overlap between people who preach antizionism and against racism

You keep saying things like that but at least in the UK it really isn’t. The difference between the ‘anti Zionist but not racist’ person and the racist person is about two pints or how many other far left people they have around them.




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