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> It's (technologically) relatively easy to create a private, censorship-resistant distributed system, but if it's illegal people just won't use it.

Ask a Gen-Xer about Napster and Bittorrent sometime.



Gen-Xer here: Napster was never made illegal

Napster lost several lawsuits in the US and filed for bankruptcy

But Napster the brand was sold to Roxio and continued operations

it's still active today

https://www.napster.com/

Anyway, in retrospective, Napster times were fun, university networks were clogged by students downloading music all day long and, at least in my country, many people bought a dial up internet connection just to use it.

But it had serious unexpected consequences, it gave birth to new generations of listeners that do not buy music, because they never had to, and the musicians are now paid virtually nothing for the music they create, while majors still make a lot of money, which isn't exactly what we hoped for when we hated on Metallica for suing Napster.

People were not using it because it was illegal, people were using it because it was cool. It was mostly young people.

Chats are a different beast, if they were ever made illegal, a lot of people would stop using them, because they would disappear from app stores and a prominent smartphone manufacturer we all know would probably delete the app remotely from the users' devices and report to the authorities whoever would dear to sideload it.

I feel sometimes a little bit conflicted about those years when I see my musician friends touring over and over because selling records and make a living of it it's not a thing anymore, and now I buy a lot more music than I did in the past (which was already a decent amount), directly from artists when I can.


People were also using it to discover new music. Most radio stations in the US are owned by a couple of large corporations who play the same bland stuff nationwide. Most of my CD collection comes from artists I discovered back then.


"never made illegal" but "lost everal lawsuits", got it


Civil court in America is just as powerful as criminal and only requires a preponderance of evidence standard be met.


it wasn't illegal in my country so...

anyway, Facebook, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. lost a lot of lawsuits, I believe they are still not illegal.


Bittorrent still exists. Plenty Gen-Zers use it too.


Thank you for illustrating the point!




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