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Do you need sugar, red meat, fat to have a joyful life? You do, don't you. Having a glass of wine or two should be treated the same.

If you have religious reservations, please use your energy to fight off islamists who deal drugs, take bribes and marry with young children. Those sin more than people who indulge in a glass of wine or two.



How did we get here from a thread about alcohol prohibition? Are they an existential threat in your country?


In fact it is, Į live in Turkey. I have seen to many religious hypocrites.


Erdogan is awful but Gülen would have been orders of magnitude worse (see Erdogan’s recent remarks about religion and modernity)


Well, for example we are currently experiencing 80% p.a. inflation, because Islam forbids interest rates. Gulenists were religious extremists but they were at least somewhat educated. Erdogan and his crew are not. We are turning against science and into a medieval interpretation of Islam each day. It is very frightening.




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