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Yes, you’re absolutely correct, the people arriving on the southern border seeking asylum definitely haven’t been through any kind of dehumanizing treatment along the way. Solid take.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/06/mexico-asylum-seekers-fa...

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2018/10/usa-...

Maybe you need to diversify your news diet? “They just ask to come in then get put on planes” is a pretty widely discredited talking point.


Great links. I can tell you what actual happens though outside of the small amount of bad cases that end up in the news.

I’m not getting anything i said above from news it’s literally how it worked for 5 different people i personally know. All coming at different times.

Also didn’t say it wasn’t dehumanizing but guess how long a K1 or CR1 visa has to wait to bring the person they are married to into the country.


So because five people you know weren't harmed you're saying things like family separation aren't a big deal? As stated in the links, CBP themselves admitted to splitting up over 6,000 families. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the wait times for marriage visas but at least those waiting aren't forcibly separated from children and kept in detention facilities.


>"Great links. I can tell you what actual happens though outside of the small amount of bad cases that end up in the news."

And photographs of people sitting in cages rather than being "flown to the destination of their choice" are of course fake.


These aren’t news articles. And they’re not individual sensationalized cases. For example, the amnesty link mentions 8000 families being separated.


But this commenter has an n of 5! That's better than 80,000


Wow an n of 5. Great sample size. I love anecdotal data, so reliable


I don’t understand this attitude.

Process A is a miserable dehumanizing process. Instead of pushing against the people who are unnecessarily making it a miserable dehumanizing process, your complaint seems to be that a similar process B isn’t a dehumanizing miserable process.


No it’s that for all the bullshit happening when you go through the legal process such as background checks, interviews, medical exams, expensive filling fees, interviews in other countries in some cases. You can just walk up the border skip all that and be in the US in a week.

The system is a joke to make the US some money off people who have it and punish law abiding citizens. If you have gone through it you would be just as pissed off as i am.

Would love for the process to be changed. Let me know how since most people don’t care about legal immigration.


Can you, though? You'll fail e-verify and won't have an SSN so you'll have to live like the people who cross the Southern border. You'll be picking strawberries instead of writing code.

I'm an immigrant and the two processes are not substitutable.


Wait what do you have more info/links on that method of entry?


Might be talking about asylum seekers? Who I believe are allowed to stay until their asylum hearings?

I mean... they talk about the hell of the legal immigration process without mentioning the hell people who're coming to our Southern boarder seeking asylum are going through.

I do agree the legal H1B process is brutal though.


I know several people who can gone through the “asylum” process. It’s not the hell fox news tells you about in 99% of cases. But you won’t see how easy the real process is on the news because it would really piss off both sides. Additionally it’s just a funnel of government money into private businesses that provide temporary housing and holding locations.




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