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> community support structure

...what do you think a union is?

I feel as though you're imagining the Big Bad Union that big companies love to describe. A union can be in whatever form you wish it to be. If software engineers wish to band together to form a union solely to improve their health insurance then they could just do that.



I don't get to pick unions. I get to pick my community support structures. Who I marry, which church,friend group,local community group I join? Those are all voluntary. Unions are not voluntary so they can't really be a community support group in the sense I mean.


Of course you do, you can choose to not take a job with an attached union you don't like. As you said, there are plenty of opportunities out there!


You are correct! But we are discussing why I personally would vote against one at an employer. It would take an otherwise reasonable and enjoyable employer and turn them into a place I no longer want to work.


>I don't get to pick unions.

>Unions are not voluntary

Not all of my colleagues are in a union, and some of those that are are in a different union to me (albeit a minority of them). It works.


It doesn't work like that in USA, union laws are different in different countries.


Some major cities have multiple overlapping electricians unions. I've been on job sites where different unions are working on top of each-other.




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