Alright, it just didn't come across for me, haha! :) I guess sometimes those implicit assumptions really are too implicit! I think it's good to err on the side of expressing them, because you can't assume someone else thinks the same way you do. That's what I've learned anyway. Hahahaha! :)

Reading your comment again with your explanation it is clear that's what you're doing.

Although, regarding your desires to present a balanced view and to persuade, I have an idea. It probably sounds like I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I think your OG comment would perhaps benefit from sounding a little bit more friendly toward Elon (not to the messianic savior level haha), but the way it sounds to me is Elon is being deceptive here and presenting it as goodwill when it's not.

However, I think the truth is there's a little bit of both, right? There's good will but it's also strategic. I get if you don't think so, tho, no worries! Haha! :)

Your OG comment sounds to me like Elon's just Machiavellian, and I get where you're coming from to remind the people who think he's a savior, but if you're point is not to go "against Elon" as you said, it might be good to acknowledge the good that he does.

At least, that way -- whether or not you believe that acknowledgment -- if you hope to bring over people who think that way, you'll probably need to appeal to how they think, rather than just dose them with the truth you see, because then they'll shut it out, if there's nothing they can relate to.

Although, if I haven't convinced you even a bit here, then maybe you shouldn't listen to me about persuasion because I guess I don't know how to do this myself. At least not effectively, or here with you. Haha!:) But if you do feel a little bit convinced then maybe consider it for next time to help your persuading people back to a more balanced view? :)

But then, there's the question of if such a thing is even possible. If people have an particular view, it could be challenging to change it, as confirmation bias means you'll ignore evidence even when it expands your worldview.

Hahaha! :) This was a funny conversation. I think we somehow skirted around the important point tho that OpenAI could in fact open source some of its older models, could it not? Musk is a typical CEO who does typical CEO things, serving his own interests, except he's better at marketing his own image and is much more outspoken, but there might also be a bit of truth to what the fanboys say about OpenAI in that it seems they do have some room to "open source" their non-SOTA stuff, or what am I missing?