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>I don't quite understand how you think encouraging laziness and attacking employment is going to improve things.

How you managed to read this out of what I wrote is astonishing.



Yes, I read yours the same way. You didn't say this specifically, of course, but this is not an astonishing response to what you wrote at all.


Huh.

Can you help me by pointing out which part of my comment encourages laziness? And which part "attacks employment"?

I was trying to illustrate the struggle that many young people face. That they are trying. They are doing what they were told (go to school, work hard, etc). Yet the dream (comfortably living) just keeps getting farther away.

"Belief" wont pay the mortgage. That doesn't mean I'm suggesting that young people be lazy and not work. I'm suggesting that saying "believe" is shitty advice (often given by people who have 'made it' to the comfortable life).


> How does one work constructively out of that?

That's the part where people think you're encourages laziness.

Look, my initial point wasn't "just close your eyes and believe real hard". Perhaps you were taking it that way?

My point was, people act (in general) consistently with what they believe. If you believe that you can make a future, you generally act to make a future. If you believe you can't, you may make halfhearted attempts because people tell you to, but you generally don't work the same as the person who thinks it's possible to actually make something happen.

The belief isn't what drives the outcome - the action is. But the action flows out of the belief.

[Edit to reply, since I'm rate-limited: Fair reply. Yes, you did say that in your initial comment; I had forgotten. Thanks for the charitable reading.]


>That's the part where people think you're encourages laziness.

Thanks. I didn't realize it would be read like that, so it helps to have it pointed out. I certainly didn't intend that to be read as "be lazy".

>Look, my initial point wasn't "just close your eyes and believe real hard". Perhaps you were taking it that way?

I know that you didn't intend it that way. I could have maybe said it more clearly, but I'll repeat the end of my comment:

>That is not how you intended it, I'm sure. But that's how it reads to many of the people who are struggling.

Your comment reads that way, just as mine apparently read as "be lazy".


You're never going to pay the mortgage if you believe you can't. Belief won't end up actually making the payments, but doomerism will only end up holding you back.




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