> Seems you think that a 4 day work week is paid as 5 is currently.

It should be. Most people won't accept less pay even if it comes with reduced hours.

Isn't the idea behind the 4 day week that you'd work a bit harder/longer on the days you're in?

If I remember correctly, a few pilots in the past highlighted there wasn't a drop in output, but it remained the same or in some causes increased.

> highlighted there wasn't a drop in output

Most likely the bottleneck in those were elsewhere. It was mentioned that they reduced meetings and other time-wasting overheads.

Sometimes. And sometimes it means you get 80% pay. I’ve known a bunch of people who had 4 day schedules in 5 day offices and it varies

I know many people who do it in Germany, above a certain size companies can't really deny you if you ask for part time (unless you're critical to the system and have to be there every single day), of course you get the pay cut that goes with it

But they're doing it voluntarily.

optional 4-day week with lower pay for the employees that want it = ok

employer-enforced 4-day week with pay equivalent to current 5-day week = ok

employer-enforced 4-day week with lower pay = not ok

I bet many businesses would love that. More places of employment start acting like Walmart, where you have to be management to get a full time job with benefits. Everyone else has a shifting 30-35 hour schedule that makes it effectively impossible to have a predictable, normal life outside of work. And no benefits for part time workers either. And the pay is so crappy food stamps are practically mandatory.

Let me understand this: the state is actually indirectly subventioning Walmart with those food stamps right? It allows them to give crappy wages because the difference is supported with food stamps paid directly to the employees. And we still call this market economy and capitalism and and and.

And yet, I only ever hear rants about the unemployed being parasites, but never the same about corporations despite them getting way more tax dollars when you add up subventions, grants, tax cuts and indirect support like described above and letting others pay for the damage they do to the environment.

Sound like capitalism alright, what's the confusion?

> Seems you think that a 4 day work week is paid as 5 is currently.

Cost of living doesn't magically drop 20% just because you're not working that 5th day.

> Cost of living doesn't magically drop 20% just because you're not working that 5th day

Nobody living at their cost of living is in the ballpark for a 4-day workweek in the near future.

But the amount of work you're able to do is. And companies need to make money, they're not s charity. I took a 20% paycut to work only 4 days a week. And I think that is fair, because my output definitely did decrease by 20%. This might not be true for everyone, but all of the "working more efficiently" thing doesn't really help you if you were already working pretty efficiently 5 days a week.

I kinda doubt your output decreased by 20%. Probably fairly close to it, but I'm guessing you got slightly more done on the other days.

> but I'm guessing you got slightly more done on the other days.

Or slightly less due to having to spend more time on overhead and reading up on things. There is a minimum amount of time you have to spend just to be ready to do your job, many current jobs are so poorly managed that most of their time is spent that way.