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He was an absolutely brilliant visionary who was able to bring his way of thinking to life through others, in the most brutal way possible. This included business (successes and failures) and his treatment of people (including his own family and ultimately himself).

What he did was literally change the shape and direction of the entire human race through his ability to level up existing products (directly and indirectly) to a level that no one would have thought possible, including his own employees.

That said, he was absolute piece of shit human being and all of his successes came at great expense of himself and others. I think there are a great number of people who are far more well-rounded and, if we aren't focused on fascist ideals, we should elevate those folks instead of Jobs.



He wansn't any kind of visionary. He didn't invent or design a single thing. He was a ruthless manager and marketer, abusing people and taking credit for their work.


Sometimes half the battle of making a product is to get the right people in the right room at the right time.

He managed to do that quite frequently. How much credit to give him for it is something I'm not quite sure of myself, but you really can't argue with the results.


He was obviously an asshole, but claiming that he wasn't any kind of visionary is just blatant revisionism.


If you claim he was a 'visionary' you should be able to back that up.


Easy, his company went on to make the Apple Vision Pro! It's in the name.




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