I've confirmed with my own 2 eyes cars driving on the road without humans in them. I've also rode in a Waymo which had no driver. They definitely exist. Teslas also have self driving.

It's in the sense that there is no human driving the car.

These people are basically Moon-landing deniers. They crop up a lot these days, sadly. I wish they'd crop up somewhere else.

I define “self driving car” as level 5. Or at least 4. It should’ve able to drive itself under almost all circumstances. And well.

Tesla isn’t that. Nor Ford. Nor GM. Nor anyone else. Waymo is closest, but they limit the domain and clearly still have issues. Stick a Waymo in snow on rural roads is it good to go? Doubt it.

I define "self driving car" as anything that drives as well as I do.

We won't get into what happens when I drive on a rural road covered with snow and ice... no, really, let's not go there. Moving right along...