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It would be cool to see the EU bar a few tech CEOs from travel to Europe, since they’re very clearly the people behind this. Say Zuckerberg and Musk. Tit for tat immigration restrictions seems like a hot upcoming idea.


I'd rather not, because it would damage the power dynamic of the EU.

The USA is an all-powerfull political entity that can dictate terms on its own. A bit like a monopoly. Europe is a large group of players, condemned to each other, making parallel but not identical choices (e.g are you in/out/half part of the EU).

This changes the way you talk to others, as you'll need to talk to them again, and the power dynamic will have shifted.

So the USA knows it's the best at everything, and will loudly declare it. Most inhabitants only have second hand impressions from other cultures.

European countries each know they individually are the best, but there are tons of neighbours with near status, so it's impolite to say it loud. If differences get big, you can't help but notice next time you enter a neighbour.

The neverending wars, culminating in WWI and WWII, tought everyone what happened when you stop communicating and start ordering. A lot of our politics is trying not to restart that and working together with others who we don't like very much. The EU is but one such project, and if we're honest, the USA pushing for stability was one helper in the past.

One way to look at Trump is: Can we Europeans deal with each others as adults when the big USA stick has disappeared. And can we talk to a partner who seems to have gone mad temporarily but might come back ?


> Can we Europeans deal with each others as adults when the big USA stick has disappeared. And can we talk to a partner who seems to have gone mad temporarily but might come back ?

There's always a bigger bully for the EU for it to go back to bickering within itself. USA, Russia, later China, maybe Turkey and the rest of the MENA down the line....


Like the founder of telegram?


The EU should target US oligarchs like it does Russian ones insofar that they support Trump's hostilities toward the EU.

Musk is probably the most obvious candidate for this, but there are several others.




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