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This was a both a nice, and extremely depressing, read.

It sounds like the author has had a good childhood and is a good parent to their kids. Wonderful.

But the whole article is appropriately summarized by their final sentences

> You recreate your memories in them. They recreate childishness in you. Life folds back on itself, but not quite the same. It loops, but continues. A helix. > > Life, then, is the creation of childhoods. You have yours, and then you get to create childhoods for others. The time is yours, and theirs

They have completely given up on their own life, and the possibility that they, too, could live in a child-like way, where they have their own wonder, joy etc.

Eg

> Children make you childlike. Skipping through the park as an adult man raises eyebrows (deservedly or not.) Skipping through the park as an adult man with your son or daughter skipping next to you on your arm is one of life’s greatest joys, both for you and for anyone who sees you.

Why do you care about people's eyebrows? Go skip, play, dance, be curious, be creative - whether just for the sake of it, or also in your "work".

Your kids need to see you actually living so that they, too, might be able to actually live once they've moved into adulthood.

> Your Christmas trees get smaller, your lights less ambitious. Some find all of these fun for their own sake, but if you are not the type of person who finds ritual appealing you will likely find yourself slowly disconnecting from holidays. You will find yourself asking what all the hustle bustle is for. > > Kids. That’s who it’s for. Of all the experiences that children renew, traditions are renewed the most. When you put up a Christmas tree, it’s for kids. When you decorate for Halloween, it’s for kids. All of these holidays are in essence a celebration of childhood, and children let you see them all for the first time again. If you remember the excitement of galumphing

Christmas, and other traditions, are NOT about trees and lights and presents. Thanksgiving is not about waiting to stampede a Walmart to buy crap. It's about genuine communion with family, friends, or - if you're particularly clued in - even strangers who don't have such traditions available to them.

And so on.

They talk about the joy of showing kids Saturn in a telescope. I won't argue with that. But that doesn't mean an adult can't have joy in discovering new things in the cosmos - be it through a career or hobby in telescopes, or exploring all parts of nature, from microbes to volcanoes. Whether as a hobby or a career.

This person is missing the point of everything.

We must do as nietzsche described and progress from a camel, to a lion, to a child again. Joseph Campbell - a wonderful interpreter and guide of all of these things - explains it all well, a quote of which is at this page https://centeroflighttulsa.org/three-transformations-spirit/



> We must do as nietzsche described and progress from a camel, to a lion, to a child again

Nietzsche's ideas where not for producing self-help advice on having hobbies.


nor was what I wrote... Try reading it all, and him, again


The metaphors of camel, lion and child have nothing to do with finding joy, experiencing life, or whatever that could matter in the context of this posting, and Joseph Campbell is pretty weak resource on Nietzsche.


No, it has everything to do with it all - particularly becoming a child again, rather than living via your children, who will eventually no longer be children and then leave you.

As for campbell, he studied him plenty and even curated a "portable jung" compendium. Moreover, his description of the camel, lion, child (from, at the very least, Zarathustra) is exceedingly accurate.

You're really out of your depth


> You're really out of your depth

Quite funny from someone suggesting that being very into Jungian thought gives you some credibility when it comes down to Nietzsche.

> particularly becoming a child again, rather than living via your children, who will eventually no longer be children and then leave you.

Please, just go and read the original. It should make it clear for you. For now your "interpretation" of Nietzsche is equivalent to New Age take on Buddhism.




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