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Perhaps you've looked at the site so much that you're blind to the numbers at the start of each item.

No numbers in Chrome on iPhone, fyi.

I can’t tell if you’re joking, because I’m looking at the site on chrome on iPhone and there’s numbers.

Oh, indeed

It would be cool to see the EU bar a few tech CEOs from travel to Europe, since they’re very clearly the people behind this. Say Zuckerberg and Musk. Tit for tat immigration restrictions seems like a hot upcoming idea.

I'd rather not, because it would damage the power dynamic of the EU.

The USA is an all-powerfull political entity that can dictate terms on its own. A bit like a monopoly. Europe is a large group of players, condemned to each other, making parallel but not identical choices (e.g are you in/out/half part of the EU).

This changes the way you talk to others, as you'll need to talk to them again, and the power dynamic will have shifted.

So the USA knows it's the best at everything, and will loudly declare it. Most inhabitants only have second hand impressions from other cultures.

European countries each know they individually are the best, but there are tons of neighbours with near status, so it's impolite to say it loud. If differences get big, you can't help but notice next time you enter a neighbour.

The neverending wars, culminating in WWI and WWII, tought everyone what happened when you stop communicating and start ordering. A lot of our politics is trying not to restart that and working together with others who we don't like very much. The EU is but one such project, and if we're honest, the USA pushing for stability was one helper in the past.

One way to look at Trump is: Can we Europeans deal with each others as adults when the big USA stick has disappeared. And can we talk to a partner who seems to have gone mad temporarily but might come back ?


> Can we Europeans deal with each others as adults when the big USA stick has disappeared. And can we talk to a partner who seems to have gone mad temporarily but might come back ?

There's always a bigger bully for the EU for it to go back to bickering within itself. USA, Russia, later China, maybe Turkey and the rest of the MENA down the line....


Like the founder of telegram?

The EU should target US oligarchs like it does Russian ones insofar that they support Trump's hostilities toward the EU.

Musk is probably the most obvious candidate for this, but there are several others.


“Shittiest Possible Outcome” is basically the motto of the current administration.

I’m curious how you deduced it’s from 2024. Timestamps on the article and the embedded video are both November 2025.


It says at the top it was published Aug 20, 2024, and the Internet Archive has it since Nov 13, 2024.

https://web.archive.org/web/20241113185615/https://epoch.ai/...


Sorry, I didn't follow the thread, thought you were referring to the top level article.


I’m not the person you originally asked.


Definitely true, but Oracle is the worst, has been for decades.


The article is essentially describing virtual memory (with enhancements) which predates the 6502 by a decade or so.


IMO it's not even quite right in its description. The first picture that describes virtual memory shows all processes as occupying the same "logical" address space with the page table just mapping pages in the "logical" address space to physical addresses one-to-one. In reality (at least in all VM systems I know of) each process has its own independent virtual address space.


We gave our parents an iPad for Christmas. Now they have two and never turn on their computer.


I could probably convince my mom on that. My dad still writes a fair bit of code (GNU Octave, mostly), and so an iPad would be a decided downgrade.


MacBook Air then


Yeah, I think I'd be more successful with trying to convince them to move to a Mac.


I am guessing that it’s a highly automated process, so per unit costs are not going to be affected much by the cost of labor.


New CEO started in March, I vaguely recall him cancelling fabs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lip-Bu_Tan


So are they going to give back the money they got from the feds to build them?


Intel didn't cancel any fabs in Arizona, one just came online. They killed plans Fabs in Poland and Germany, and the Ohio fab is on hold. You don't get the money up front, so nothing to give back.


Though the relevant governments in Poland and Germany probably spent a lot of time and effort (and money). Only some of them they will get back.

But I guess that's a risk they knew they were taking.


I doubt there was much; the sort of outright subsidy the US sometimes does is usually classed as unlawful state aid in the EU (there are exceptions; in particular member states were allowed to bail out/nationalise their banks in the financial crisis. But subsidies to random foreign companies would generally be illegal; see the Apple tax case).


Well, I'm also taking about all the bureaucrats time wasted on wooing Intel.

The time of government officials and civil servants ain't free.


Didn’t the feds just get 10% of the company?


The way that worked is that part of the CHIPs act after Intel reached a milestone the USG handed them a bag of cash.

Intel failed at finishing a bunch of milestones so there was a large pot of money Intel did not get. Trump gave them that pot of money in return for 10% stock.

You can make up your own mind about whether investing money into a company that couldn't achieve milestones is a good idea.


I guess they could make the argument that holding 10% of the only company with an x86 license that manufacturers them at scale in the US was worth it.

If you consider it a hedge against missiles flying in the indo-pacific.

I don't know that I would but the US gov could - it's similar in terms of strategic goals as the Jones Act.


I mean the Jones act was pretty practical for it's time. When you could obtain a ship via a cheap lease from the US Navy then the lack of capital spend building the ship is fine to spend employing US sailors.

However, now that the navy is out of the business of buying overpriced ships to rent out (with the idea that they'd be repurposed if a war broke out) now the Jones act isn't very effective.

However, unlike the Jones Act there's no criteria that Intel be able to supply chips. At least with the Jones Act we're going to have US citizens practiced sailing ships. With the stock purchase Intel doesn't need to have capacity to build chips for missiles/drones/etc; especially with the government treating them as non-voting shares!

If the USG wanted a hedge they should've just forked some money over for an option to buy X chips for $Y. Or some more complex option about fab time / output. You hedge production concerns with futures not equity!

It's also not great to hedge by using a vendor that wasn't able to meet previous goals you gave them. Counterparty risk is a real thing.


Yeah hence the “I don’t know that I would” it was more an attempt to see it from their point of view and assume a rationale, there may not have been one or not a sensible one we can infer with what is publicly known, as an outsider I can’t say the US is a rational actor at this point.


The govt got shares instead already


I’m curious what state that is.


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